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		<title>How I Came to Support Same-Sex Marriage, Part 4: A Biblical Breakdown</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trigger warning for rape and violence. The Bible is heavy stuff, kids. An article by Anna Sofia and Elizabeth Botkin started my questioning the Biblical interpretation of homosexual sin. They didn’t intend it, I’m quite sure, but the first place I saw Ezekiel 16:49 was in their series on Childish Homeschooler Syndrome. The sisters wrote,… <span class="read-more"><a href="http://cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/a-biblical-breakdown/">Read More &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Trigger warning for rape and violence. The Bible is heavy stuff, kids.</em></p>
<p>An article by Anna Sofia and Elizabeth Botkin started my questioning the Biblical interpretation of homosexual sin. They didn’t intend it, I’m quite sure, but the first place I saw Ezekiel 16:49 was in their series on <a title="Childish Homeschooler Syndrome" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2013/01/05/childish-homeschooler-syndrome/">Childish Homeschooler Syndrome.</a></p>
<p>The sisters wrote, “When many of us &#8216;good kids&#8217; think of the sins of Sodom, we think of flagrant debauchery and perversion (no danger of going there, we reassure ourselves). But <i>this</i> is what God actually condemned them for: ‘Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, <b>pride, fulness of bread</b>, and <b>abundance of idleness</b> was in her and in her daughters, <b>neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy</b>.’ – Ezekiel 16:49” (emphasis in original)</p>
<p>I would come back to this post years after reading it as a teenager. In the meantime, I was looking for answers from Christians about homosexuality.</p>
<p>My first impression was that gay Christians who had gay relationships took the Bible very lightly. One YouTube video, made by a Mormon lesbian, explained that heaven might not be as great for her because she was sinning, but she didn’t want to live an unhappy life. The same explanation was in my university’s production of “Next Fall,” which depicted a gay couple’s relationship. One of the men in the relationship was a Christian, but a very loose one who said it was sin, but it didn’t matter that he was sinning.</p>
<p>That line of reasoning didn’t work for me. I needed proof that a homosexual relationship was or wasn’t sinful, not some excuse for sinning. If Christians should live like their desires are more important than the commands of the Bible, every wrong action is allowed. Besides, some verses in the New Testament went so far as to say certain sins would keep people out of the Kingdom of Heaven, which sounded pretty serious.</p>
<p>I was already convinced that I should accept gay people <a title="Losing Faith in Politics" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/04/losing-faith-in-politics/">at the political level</a> and <a title="“Am I Going to Hell?”" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/05/am-i-going-to-hell/">as a friend</a>. What felt disproportionately wrong was how my intuitive convictions and my regular reliance on the Holy Spirit weren’t lining up with what I heard about the Bible.</p>
<p>Maybe, just as the church so often overlooked love as the greatest commandment, it had gotten this issue wrong, too.</p>
<p>So I looked further. I contacted an old friend who had come out as gay since we&#8217;d last talked, and got his insights. I watched <a href="http://www.matthewvines.com/">this sermon</a>, and I read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Torn-Rescuing-Gospel-Gays-vs-Christians-Debate-ebook/dp/B0076DFG5S">this book</a>. The number of reasons to believe the Bible opposed a committed, loving same-sex marriage began to diminish.</p>
<p>Below is a breakdown of <i>my personal findings</i>. I gathered them from research and discussions, but they are not a representation of all Christians who support committed gay relationships. They are also not the only possible arguments; just the ones I found to be the most clear and convincing.</p>
<p><b>Sodom</b></p>
<p>In the biblical story of the two cities God destroyed for their sinfulness, Gomorrah isn’t mentioned in relation to homosexuality at all. The term “sodomy” comes from the city of Sodom, however, because the story has long been interpreted to mean the city was evil for its acceptance of the atrocious sin of homosexual relationships (among other sins). There are a few problems with this, though. In the story (Genesis 19:1-11), two angels visit Lot, and all the men of the city gather at his door, wanting to rape the angels.</p>
<p>It seems unlikely that the entirety of a city would be gay, if same-sex attraction was the definition of the time for &#8220;being gay.&#8221; It was also clear that these men weren’t looking for a committed, consensual relationship with the angels, but just wanted to harm them. The distinctions are so polar, it makes no sense to think Sodom’s sin was homosexual relationships. Another similar thing happened in the book of Judges (19:16-24). A group of men threatened a foreigner with gang rape, but were satisfied to be given a woman instead, meaning they weren’t merely attracted to the same sex. Further, there was that verse in Ezekiel (the one I opened this post with) specifically saying Sodom’s sin was a lack of hospitality. Perhaps the problem was that people shouldn’t gang rape foreign visitors, not that they shouldn’t have loving and committed relationships. I moved on.</p>
<p><b>Idol Worship</b></p>
<p>There were, surprisingly, not many other mentions in the Bible of homosexuality. I thought the topic would be rampantly scattered throughout every chapter, considering how seriously Christians take it. Jesus never speaks against homosexuality in the gospels. Several passages are contextually referring to homosexual practices as a form of pagan idol worship, rather than committed love. These include Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24 and 15:12, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Each of these mentions refer to idol worship, cult activity, and prostitution rather than a committed, loving, and exclusive marriage. It&#8217;s just as odd to compare the activity in these verses to heterosexual marriage as it is to compare them to the modern definition of a dedicated same-sex marriage, for they are so different.</p>
<p><b>Abandoning God as a Prerequisite</b></p>
<p>In Romans 1:18-32, Paul rants about the danger of false images of God. He describes what happens to people who have redefined God, and who worshiped things instead of God. Among the results of such behavior are God’s abandonment, and letting such people pursue their evil desires.</p>
<p>For those who have never known a Christian who is gay (or known that a Christian they knew was gay), this seems like the most logical argument against homosexual relationships within the Christian world. Gay people must have turned away from God, and they must have a wrong idea of who God is, and that’s why they have their attractions. If they hadn’t abandoned God, they wouldn’t have the attractions they do.</p>
<p>This misunderstanding may be one major reason Christians believe that being gay is a choice, and that a gay person can become straight through therapy. It’s the same explanation that leaves so many disappointed with an emphasis on a charismatic experience or healing through spirituality. <i>Have more faith, and you or your loved one will be healed</i>, some reassure, when Jesus specifically refused to perform miracles for the purpose of making people believe in him (Matthew 16:1-4). Many discouraged people lose faith because they can’t seem to have enough of it for the vending-machine god of miracles for signs instead of for love and compassion. In the anti-gay church, we’re doing the same to teenagers and young adults struggling with same-sex attractions: <i>have more faith, and your problem will go away.</i></p>
<p>No wonder so many gay Christians think God doesn’t love them.</p>
<p>If these verses mean what they’ve been interpreted to mean, praying away same-sex attractions would work. It would work because under Christ’s new covenant, pursuit of God is personal. Salvation is not by generational blessing, and curses are not due to a sinful culture. If a sinful culture could make Christians be a certain way, Christianity could never have grown from a minority in a sinful culture, because God would have to cut them off as Romans 1 says. That message is the very opposite of the gospel, which claims redemption for anyone who chooses to take it.</p>
<p>The evidence shows that committed Christians have been unable to become straight. Last summer, Exodus International, which was known as the largest Christian organization providing therapy for gay people to become straight, shut down with apologies for hurting those they’d set out to help. There are countless stories of people who earnestly seek out God who are still attracted to people from their same gender.</p>
<p>Have gay people redefined God? There are two gigantic reasons not to believe this. First, if every person who redefines God at some point is gay, there should be a lot more gay people in the Christian church. Second, this group of verses in Romans 1 deserves a very serious reconsideration when the Gay Christian community is more closely observed. The modern church has many people who define God by personal ideologies and doctrines and teachings, divided by denominations. Articles like <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/blog/gay-christian-network-conference"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">this one</span></a> describe a different picture of gay Christians: they have found love in the face of adversity from the church, and not just an affectionate and romantic love. They’ve spread the love of God, and there is real revival toward Christ’s core message of love.</p>
<p>I must therefore venture to suggest this logical setup and ask a sobering question: Romans 1 says that God lets people turn to their selfish desires after redefining Him. Gay Christians &#8211; both those who choose to remain celibate and those who pursue same-sex marriages alike &#8211; are turning to a deeper understanding of God, the Bible, and putting into action the command to “love one another,” and are bridging gaps between divisions in belief. The anti-gay church, by contrast, is casting out their brothers and sisters who identify as gay, regardless of their lifestyle choices. Which of these two groups has redefined God? Which of these two groups is turning to selfishness?</p>
<p><b>Companionship</b></p>
<p>When God created Adam, he said that it was not good for man to be alone. Similarly, Paul says that it is better for a man to marry than to burn with passion. This doesn’t apply to all people, as Paul and Jesus were single and Paul admonished singleness. However, if there are gay people, and they long for a lifelong committed partner for companionship, is it then good for them to be alone?</p>
<p>Some may suggest that gay people should turn to God for fulfillment and choose to be celibate. As Justin Lee put it in his book <i>Torn</i>: God didn’t look at Adam’s loneliness and say, “I am sufficient for you.” He made him a suitable companion. As I said in my first post, this doesn’t mean I don’t support gay Christians who choose to be celibate. It does mean there’s a reasonable question about the need for human, committed, intimate relationships.</p>
<p><b>Procreation as a standard for marriage</b></p>
<p>During the days of the Bible, marriage was different than it is today. <em>This does not mean God has changed, or that God’s plan has changed, or God’s law has changed.</em> Marriage is never defined in the Bible, it is simply assumed by the culture of the time, and changes with the stories therein. Hannah, the mother of the prophet Samuel, is notably the first wife of a man who took a second wife so he could have children. Elderly couples don’t get married in the Bible. In fact, the problem of elderly people being unable to procreate gets Abraham and Sarah into a lot of trouble. There is no condemnation of polygamy in the Bible.</p>
<p>What I am about to say, then, is not in contradiction with a command in the Bible. It is an observation about culture: procreation is no longer the reason for marriage. We no longer need polygamy, for people can adopt children or go without having children, at least as long as others are still reproducing so the species can survive. I think the modern approach to marriage – that is, people marrying for attraction and compatibility and being committed to one person instead of more than one – is more consistent with Christ’s message than the traditions of older cultures. Jesus chose marriage to one bride as a metaphor for his return. Jesus preached against trying to serve more than one master, also a lesson Solomon taught in Proverbs about polygamy. Jesus’ salvation is a gift accepted by individual choice, and modern marriage is by mutual choice rather than being arranged or one-sided.</p>
<p>These were the main arguments I found most convincing as a Biblical defense for same-sex marriage. Once I was able to support same-sex marriage, and more importantly, people who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual, at the political, relational, and spiritual level, I couldn’t keep silent about it. I prepared with careful prayer, earnest study, focused discussion, and engaging with people who disagreed with me.</p>
<p>Keeping this information to myself and my inner circle wasn&#8217;t enough.</p>
<p><em>Update 2015: Many people are confused about why I&#8217;d make a Bible-based case for same-sex marriage when I don&#8217;t believe in the Bible as authoritative. I tell that story <a title="Why I Still Quote the Bible (A Commentary on my Huffington Post blog)" href="http://cynthiajeub.com/2014/04/why-i-still-quote-the-bible-a-commentary-on-my-huffington-post-blog/">in this post</a>. Also, a</em><em> friend who wasn&#8217;t convinced by my Biblical breakdown found <a href="http://soulforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/whatthebiblesays.pdf">this book by Dr. Rev. Mel White more compelling.</a></em></p>
<p><b>I will end this series with a video addressing questions and comments, so please leave your thoughts here on my blog, or on Twitter (@cynthiajeub) or Facebook (Insights on Epic Living).</b></p>
<p><a title="“They Don’t Need Your Help.”" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/03/they-dont-need-your-help-2/">Part 1</a> | <a title="Losing Faith in Politics" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/04/losing-faith-in-politics/">Part 2</a> | <a title="“Am I Going to Hell?”" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/05/am-i-going-to-hell/">Part 3</a> | Part 4 | <a title="How I Came to Support Same-Sex Marriage, Part 5: Why I Couldn’t Be Silent" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/07/the-final-straw/">Part 5</a> | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok6M8iXPUuw">Part 6</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was March 2012 when everything I had been taught to believe about gay people began to break down. People were choosing sides in the upcoming election, and as I became more politically influential than ever before, I was becoming equally disenfranchised with politics. The more I worked on both sides of political lines, however,… <span class="read-more"><a href="http://cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/losing-faith-in-politics/">Read More &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was March 2012 when everything I had been taught to believe about gay people began to break down. People were choosing sides in the upcoming election, and as I became more politically influential than ever before, I was becoming equally disenfranchised with politics.</p>
<p>The more I worked on both sides of political lines, however, I realized all people are just people, and the system is more broken than I ever knew. Simple conversations with a fellow investigative journalist, a Ron Paul supporter, and a childhood friend made me start questioning the political reasoning behind opposition to same-sex marriage rights.</p>
<p>A fellow videographer drove me to the university we were investigating for corruption. We discussed the stronger arguments for equal marriage rights: gay couples weren’t hurting anyone with their personal lifestyle choices, so it didn’t make sense to outlaw it on grounds of harming people. Our investigation was focused around voting legality and ethics, not equal marriage, but I had to think about my priorities: I knew I believed in fighting injustice, and it didn’t seem fair that these people couldn’t live how they wished.</p>
<p>My friend Dave picked me up from the airport when I landed back in Colorado. A dedicated Ron Paul supporter, Dave talked to me about the primaries and didn’t ask me any questions about my secretive trip. I was leaning toward anarchy as a political philosophy (I don’t support violent revolution, but I think the ideal form of government is no government, and the means to get there is empowering individuals to govern themselves), but I didn’t support Ron Paul. Dave, too, brought up equal marriage rights. He said the government shouldn’t be making marriage official and taxing based on it anyway, so it didn’t matter if people were living outside of the so-called “definition” of marriage.</p>
<p>Within a few days, I was back to my regular political engagements on twitter. I tweeted about how children raised by same-sex couples are disadvantaged. An old friend replied, saying all the same problems are in heterosexual households.</p>
<p>If people wanted to live a certain lifestyle, even if I disagreed with it, it only needed to be proven as not harmful. If it didn&#8217;t harm people, it should be permissible by law. Was it harmful to allow same-sex couples to marry?</p>
<p>There was the argument of disease, but diseases spread among heterosexual couples who were uncommitted, too. I was told it was ruining the definition of “marriage,” but I wanted to know if that wasn’t the fault of the high divorce rate among heterosexuals, not people who wanted to live their own lives. The last question, then, was whether it harmed children.</p>
<p>My friend on twitter asked if children were harmed by abusive homes and split homes. These were in heterosexual marriage. I was forced to ask myself: would a child be better off in a stable home with two parents, even if they were the same gender, than in an unstable home? Even slim chances of having an abused child in a heterosexual home made heterosexuality an oddly arbitrary condition for parenting eligibility.</p>
<p>I was told that I shouldn’t compare the worst-case scenario in one to the best-case scenario in the other. However, <a title="Why I Don’t Draw Lines in Philosophy" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/06/19/why-i-dont-draw-lines-in-philosophy/">I knew a single point of failure meant a philosophy couldn’t universally apply</a>. The fact stood: it was possible that children could be better off in a home with same-sex parents than in a home with heterosexual parents.</p>
<p>People believe a child needs both a female and male parent because of gender stereotypes. According to fundamentalist tradition, a man must train his boys to be manly, and give his daughters an authority figure so she can transfer from that relationship to the same authority under her husband; the wife must be meek and submissive, and she isn’t the breadwinner, but the nurturer in the home (<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/created-to-be-his-help-meet">If you don&#8217;t believe me, check out this series on another blog</a>).</p>
<p>My parents didn’t raise my siblings and me to base our actions on what was expected due to our genders, however. My little sister was very much a “tomboy” growing up, and played sports as well as the boys. In her early teens, she could win an arm-wrestle with any boy she met. She won a top-ranking award in the nation with her arguments on why the Bible doesn’t support the modern Christian presuppositions about male-female dynamics. One of my little brother’s earliest handiwork was in the “girly” activity of sewing, and there are many more examples. It’s impossible to remove all gender stereotyping from a household today, and my parents certainly haven’t eliminated it, but I never felt pressured to grow my hair long or wear dresses, and I think that’s a good thing.</p>
<p>Because I was already convinced about gender equality and opposed to gender stereotypes, it didn’t seem necessary to have two parents of both genders raising a child for that child to be stable.</p>
<p>I started questioning and researching, and applied the following standard to every argument I could find against equal marriage rights: <i>could the same be said to outlaw heterosexual marriage?</i></p>
<p>I was told that procreation was the purpose of marriage, and gay couples couldn’t have kids. But aren’t some heterosexual couples unable to have kids? Should they be disallowed from marrying? Was it justifiable to let elderly couples marry? To be consistent, I had to set aside the procreation argument.</p>
<p>Another related question came up, too: what made a person gay? I was told it was always from abuse. If that was the case, there must also be people who, due to abuse, had unhealthy heterosexual attractions.</p>
<p>Morally, I wasn’t yet convinced. On a political level, however, I couldn’t support the traditional marriage definition as a reason to outlaw same-sex marriage. I decided <a href="http://travisherche.com/2014/01/30/the-two-kinds-of-gay-marriage-activism/">the government should be uninvolved with enforcing a specific lifestyle</a>, moral or not, and that conservatives should stop trying to define marriage a certain way. I wasn&#8217;t just disenfranchised with politics; I was disenfranchised with government itself, and people trying to force other people to do things.</p>
<p>So when I say &#8220;I support equal marriage,&#8221; I mean it in the sense that both homosexual and heterosexual marriage ought to be treated equally. Because I am an anarchist by political philosophy, I don&#8217;t think those rights are under jurisdiction of government or the church. I am therefore opposed to legislating a definition of marriage at all, so oppose any policies attempting to do so (California&#8217;s Proposition 8, for example).</p>
<p>It’s shameful to say my support happened in this order. My journey started with political philosophy, then bled into my friendships, and ended with a reexamination of the Bible and how to reconcile it to my Christian faith.</p>
<p>I’m disenfranchised with conservative-Christian politics because this is backwards. Jesus said to love God and love people, and every authority figure in my life immediately abandoned this premise when I brought up this particular issue. The focus on political ground, and keeping America safe from the “threat” of same-sex marriage, had to be the first thing I questioned.</p>
<p>When I got unsatisfactory answers, I set the issue aside. I wasn’t involved in political activism about it, and it didn’t impact me as a straight person.</p>
<p>Until a friend came out to me, and I had to decide whether to hate her sin or not.</p>
<p><b>I will end this series with a video addressing questions and comments, so please leave your thoughts here on my blog, or on Twitter or Facebook where you found the link.</b></p>
<p><a title="“They Don’t Need Your Help.”" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/03/they-dont-need-your-help-2/">Part 1</a> | Part 2 | <a title="“Am I Going to Hell?”" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/05/am-i-going-to-hell/">Part 3</a> | <a title="A Biblical Breakdown" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/06/a-biblical-breakdown/">Part 4</a> | <a title="How I Came to Support Same-Sex Marriage, Part 5: Why I Couldn’t Be Silent" href="http://www.cynthiajeub.com/2014/02/07/the-final-straw/">Part 5</a> | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok6M8iXPUuw">Part 6</a></p>
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